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“The Rights of the Child?” – Giving Them a Voice 2009 Survey of Home Educated Children & Young
People
Executive Summary and Topline ResultsResearch conducted by Ann Newstead
© Ann Newstead 2009 Introduction The Purpose of this Survey
In Graham Badman's Report on Home Education he
wrote: "I have sought to strike
a balance between the rights of parents and the rights of the child, and offer,
through registration and other recommendations, some assurance on the greater
safety of a number of children." (11.2) I wished to give children the opportunity to
respond to this assertion and following the publication of the Report I issued
a short survey for home educated children between the ages of 5 and 25. The survey proved to be so popular with young
people in the community that the original survey was extended for two months.
The survey began on 12th June 2009 and
the last response was collected on 6th October 2009. The survey was publicised via home education
internet lists, home educators’ Facebook pages, as well as in a direct mailshot
to all families in membership of Education Otherwise and the Home Education
Advisory Service. Instructions at the start of the survey said that,
should the child need help understanding the questions or in writing their
answers they could ask someone for help, but to make sure that it was their own
opinion.
For brevity I have used the term "child"
or "children" throughout this summary with no disrespect meant to
those young people and young adults who answered. One distinguishing characteristic of home educated
young people is the inability to put them easily into a box, however for the
purposes of providing a statistical summary I have categorised every answer
under a more general “for” or “against” heading and have then provided examples
to illustrate the range of answers. As a
home educating parent of four children, organiser of a 260+ family local
support group, and a local contact for Education Otherwise, I believe that I
have been able to be fair to the overall meaning of each child’s response for
the purposes of that summary. Where percentages in the topline do not sum 100
this is due to rounding (up to one decimal place). It should be remembered that this survey focuses on
the child’s perceptions, and not on facts, which it is believed in this
instance is the correct focus of such research.
After all, it is the children who are supposed to be the ones whose
wellbeing is at the focus of the Badman Review and it is upon them that the
proposals will have the greatest effect. Punctuation, grammar and spelling have been left as
they were given in the original answers. Publication of the data
This summary relates to all 777 responses is
available to download from here: http://tinyurl.com/homeedchildrensurvey 768 respondents agreed for their answers to be
passed to DCSF in full and will also be available to members of the Children
Schools & Families Select Committee upon request. A copy of those complete answers is available on
request (see below). Contact Details
Ann Newstead 08445 868839 Demographics Age of Respondents20.7%
of the children who responded were between the ages of 11 and 12. Length of Time Home Educated20.9%
of the children who responded to the survey had been educated otherwise than at
school for between 1 and 2 years, with 19.2% educated at home for between 3 and
4 years. Responses Question: Some people think that the decision to home
educate is made just by the parent and that this means children's rights are
not taken into account. Do you agree? 771
children answered this question. Many gave detailed answers about how
their education was decided upon and carried out, but they can be broken down
generally as follows: The
vast majority (744 responses, approximately 96.5%) felt that the child(ren)'s
rights were taken into account by the parent when the decision was made to home
educate: “Mummy asked me before
taking me out of school, she asked lots to make sure her & Daddy were doing
the right thing” (5-6 year old category, home educated 1-2 years) Indeed
many stated that the decision had wholly or primarily been their own: “No i do not agree. I
asked my mother at the age of eight to take me out of school and she did. It
was totally my decision” (15-16
year old category, home educated 5-6 years) Some
children explained why the decision was made: No. I was bullied at school
for 2 years. The last year was bad. The last thing the bully did to me was to
push me against a metal bench. I hit the side of my head really hard. My ear
was swollen and bruised and while I was on the ground the bully kept kicking
me. He was in my class and I had to see him everyday. The teachers didn't stop
him. In the end I was so scared I just couldn't go inside the school anymore
and my Mum asked if I wanted her to teach me at home and I said yes. I left
when I was six. I was glad. I feel safe at home. I would never go back. (9-10 year old
category, home educated 3-4 years) I had bad time at
school. I got given a tutor for hours a week by the school she made me feel
like an idiot and never listened. My
parents found out about home education and as it was the summer holiday we had
six weeks to think and talk about it. We met some HE people. They told us the
good and bad side of HE. I do not agree
with the statment above as I was given the choice. (13-14
year old category, home educated 1-2 years) One young
person answered: No. Taking a child out
of school is a huge inconvenience to the parents, and they have to sacrifice
much time and money to do so in most cases. Children are almost always taken
out of school because their parents are concerned for their welfare in some
way, which is clearly supporting their rights. (15-16
year old category, home educated 5-6 years) Another
wrote: It is difficult to answer
this question generally as every home educating family is different - for
myself, I have been home educated all my life and I cannot remember the point
when it was decided that I would not go to school. The option has always been
left fairly open though and should I choose/have chosen to go to school I doubt
that my parents would prevent me.
(15-16 year old category, home educated 11-12 years) 9 respondents
(approximately 1.2%) neither agreed nor disagreed, for example saying that
every case could be different. A further
8 children (roughly 1%) felt that it would be natural for parents to decide
when the child was younger but believed that the child would have more say in
the matter as they matured.
Well, generally in the
beginning it is decided upon by the parent, unless the child is old enough of
course to make that decision for themselves. What I have found is that usually
by the time people begin home-educating their child and them are so sick of the
school system or the issues which they encountered there that they're both
willing to give it a try. If a child continually doesn't enjoy it and prefers
school, usually, in my experience, they have simply been inserted back into
school. End of story. (17-18 year old category, formerly home educated)
Only
10 children (1.3%) agreed that it was their parent that decided. One of these
said of that decision: My mum and dad know what is best for me. (9-10 year old category, home
educated 3-4 years) Another child explained the
reasons behind their parent’s decision: My mum made me be
educated at home because I didn't get into the secondary school i wanted an the
authority wouldn’t give me transport to school. I see pictures of things like
proms at school and i miss out on that and i miss my friends to. (15-16 year old category, home educated 3-4 years) All
of the detailed responses showed a remarkable relationship within home
educating families: My parents decided,
but I like being home educated and I want to stay home educated at the moment.
I probably will go to school when I am older. We will decide it together. My
big sister and brother who are 17 and 14 are in school now. They were home
educated for 7 years. (7-8 year old
category, home educated 3-4 years) A
number of children commented on the fact that school children had no choice in
whether or not to go to school, unless their parents knew about home education
and offered them the choice: Parents decide to send
their children to school and dont ask the children if they want to go. I am
taught at home because I want to be and my mum lets me. (9-10 years old, home
educated 5-6 years) I think the issue is
finding a balance between the parents right to home educate and the child’s right
to choose. In reality, in the government’s eyes, the only issue is getting the
child back into school, however. This is typical of the government, politics,
and the media, however. They pick out only the arguments that support their own
case. Home educators are probably among the first to point out a weakness in
the government and local authorities and just because they are more vocal about
it than most it doesn’t mean their own voice over shadows their childrens. (13-14 year old category, home educated under a year) Question: Do you choose what you learn, and how you
learn, or do you feel that it is all decided for you by your parent(s)? Some children expressed this simply; others went into more detail as in the responses below: I choose what i am
interested - history of trains, electric, steam trains, rockets, sciences
experiments at the museum. I ask mom and
she takes me. Then we talk and read together. We are a happy family. (5-6 year old category, home educated 1-2 years) Both. My parents know
far more and they lead me to things that build on my knowledge and interests.
e.g. we studied Japan because of my interest in the car industry and because
there are so many parallels with Great Britain. I hear that Japan is not
usually studied in schools but it is fascinating! Some subjects they need to
input more of this leadership as I would not be interested or see the relevance
unless they explained it to me. (13-14 year old category, home educated 3-4 years) Several subjects
that'd be considered essential in mainstream society after I've finished my
education, such as English, Maths, some Science and History are all agreed
between me and my parents as needed to be studied, I choose other things that
peak my interest to pursue and find out more about. (15-16 year old category, home educated 1-2 years) When I left school we
talked about what we were going to do together. I know I have to learn things
like Maths and English and reading and writing. I couldn't read or write
properly when I left school and now I can. Mum lets me mix lots of things up so
they cover different subjects. Sometimes I like to do cooking and it covers
bits of Geography, Science, reading and writing, Maths, ICT and Photography. We
grow lots of vegetables and this year Mum and I got everything ready together.
We got the beds ready and planted all the seeds. This year I hatched some
Painted Lady Butterflies from tiny caterpillars and we set them free into our
garden. I took pictures with my camera to show how they grew. We do lots of
other things too. I like learning this way. It is much better than school . It's
more fun and I feel happy and safe. I help my neighbour Jane in her garden and
I have lots of friends in the street. Some are little and some are the same age
as me. I go to Cubs and do loads of badges and I do Kickboxing and ride my bike
a lot with my Dad. when the swimmimg pool is ready next year I will do that as
well. (9-10 year old category, home educated 3-4 years) A quarter (25.8%) of respondents felt very clearly that the choice was entirely theirs. I choose what I do
except when we have to go shopping. (5-6 year old category, home educated 3-4 years) Many of those responses however showed clearly that this was NOT “laissez faire” but the child being allowed the freedom to choose within a secure environment. I decide but my mummy
tells me if I haven’t done something for a long time (7-8 year old category, home educated under a year) Yes I am given the
choice and freedom to decide what I learn and the methods by which I learn it
but always within reason. (15-16 year old
category, home educated 9-10 years) One young person summed up this autonomous approach very well: Our style of learning
is mainly autonomous - I make use of the Internet and libraries in particular,
and am largely self-taught. Often I will ask my parents questions or for help
they will answer/help me, but we have no set schedule/lessons etc. 15-16 year old category, home educated 11-12 years Only 6.2% of the children who answered this question felt that the decision on what and how to learn was entirely, or almost entirely, down to their parents. Even for those families who are quite structured in their educational approach, most of them showed by their answers that this was a process that was far fairer and open than for a school child who has absolutely no control over what, or how, they learn. Mum and Dad choose
most of it but if I say I want to learn something in particular, like the flute,
then they let me do that. (9-10 year old category, home educated 9-10 years) Mostly Mum and Dad
choose but if I am into something we learn about it. (11-12 year old category, home educated 1-2 years) We have a set time for
writing, maths, French, Latin, and other things. Mum decides. If we are doing
well with something and enjoy it we often have more time on that. I like doing
Latin and French is okay. I feel I'm doing better at home (11-12 year old category, home educated 3-4 years) Some reflected the fact that the choice of what to do came down more to age, and that their involvement in the process would increase as they got older: Mummy gives me things
to do based on things I like and am interested in. We have learnt all about parts
of plants this week and are growing vegetables now which is lot's of fun. (5-6 year old category, home
educated under a year) Question: The Report has said that the local authority
must be allowed to visit you to check that you are receiving a "suitable
education". Do you think this is
right? If so, why and if not, why not? Out of 770 responses, 536
children (69.6%) did not feel that it was right or appropriate for the local
authority to have to visit a home educating family to check that the child was
receiving a “suitable” education. Most
of the children were very clear as to why compulsory home visits were not
acceptable to them. I would hate to be
"checked" on! It's like you dont trust my mummy to care for me! (5-6 year old category, home educated 5-6 years) I don't want teachers
coming to see my work because it is mine and not theirs. (7-8 year old category, home educated 1-2 years) No, of course not. My
education is nothing like what my friends at school learn. I think it's 'suitable
' because I love what I learn. I don't think what is learnt at school is
suitable for me. It's dull and repetitive. I like languages and myths, music
and beliefs and rituals in the world. I go to the British Museum all the time.
A school inspector wouldn't get what I'm doing. (11-12 year old category, home educated 11-12 years) No. I think perhaps
parents should send in an annual report as that's all they get in schools.
Parents Evenings are optional so I think LA's visits should also be (15-16 year old category, home educated 1-2 years) No, I have experience
of these visits. They are literally a waste of time, because: A) it was totally
clear to the inspector that we were extremely happy and well looked after, the
first time he came. He said as much. (15-16 year old category, home educated 5-6 years) No. It is a huge
intrusion into a family's personal life. Social Services already have the right
of entry into ~any~ home if they suspect abuse. Having an 'inspector' coming
into the home is stressful for everyone - especially when they usually don't
have any idea about home education. We were not 'known' to our local authority
and I'm very glad of it - it would have been detrimental to my education if we
had to conform to someone else's ideas of what counted as 'satisfactory'. (19-25 year old category, formerly home educated) 49 children (6.4%) either
didn’t understand the question or were not sure as to what they thought about
the idea and had no definite answer. Yes and no. It's okay
to 'check', but on the other hand, how can they decide what is a suitable
education for each person? (13-14 year old category, home educated 1-2 years) im autistic and dont
want to see them if im not feeling ok. mum doesnt mind because everything is
don right but she does mind if it upsets me and my brother. (9-10 year old category, home educated under a year) This is fine, I do not
mind. BUT will they start finding fault with everthing, to make sure they get
Children back into School. Will they try making it so hard, that children will
fail.[stet] (13-14 year old category, home educated 1-2 years) i think it's right for
somebody to come every 2 years and we are fine about that because i am learning
lots and have very good reports from the school inspector. i hear there is a
law that wants to pass about school inspectors so they come every year and on
their own with the child give a test on them and if they get it wrong they are
forced to go back to school which is very unfair because it puts pressure onto
the student so that they go back to school which they would hate. We should
have more rights to say no to that because we are old enough to understand. Why
can't you just leave us alone? We are doing fine. (11-12 year old category, home educated 3-4 years) These mixed feelings were most eloquently summed up by one teenager: I have mixed feelings
about the subject. I understand that there is the potential for child abuse
cases (though I’d like confirmation that all the cases the press/government
have referred to are concerning home educated children) but after meeting the
local authority employees at are home for the first time around two weeks ago I
wouldn’t like to meet them again. They were confrontational, pretentious and
generally not very nice people. I didn’t think they belonged in the job they
were in if they were dealing with kids on a day to day basis and strongly
considered telling them this after they said they thought I had “socialization
issues”. After they left, I was glad to get rid of them. I didn’t have good
expectations of them before they arrived but they were apparently better than
my what my mum’s where since she said they weren’t as bad as she was expecting
but they were far, far worse than I though they’d be. (13-14 year old category, home
educated under a year) In total, 185 (24%) children would agree to a visit. However, only 125 of these (16.7%) agreed without some form of caveat. Even then, their answers showed that this agreement was either based on lack of awareness of the implications of compulsory visits, or based purely on the so-far positive experience of the particular individual from their LA who had visited them so far. We have just had our
2nd inspection and our lady is really nice. She asks if she can come and my Mum
says yes, but I don't think people should be able to come into your house
without asking first even the police aren't allowed to do that. (9-10 year old category, home educated 3-4 years) Two children appeared to feel that they had to say yes, or be sent back
to school.
One child wrote: Yes because If I dont,
and I dont show them i am doing work, they might send me back to school (9-10 year old category, home educated under a year) Her Mum added: (daughter then got
very upset.. She is very rulebound and doesnt like to be thought of as doing
wrong. She also expected them to be knocking on our door any moment now.. lots
of reassurance given.) Caveats
applied by the children who were happy to have a visit were mainly to do with
the issue of judging a suitable education or concern that the LA personnel
would not understand what home education was. yes its ok because I
do work but it depends what they think is suitable I might not agree (11-12 year old category, home educated 9-10 years) only if they dont tell
us what to do. (9-10 year old category, home educated 3-4 years) I think it is partly
right, and I am proud to show what I have done. But they should not be
intrusive or think they come to 'inspect', they should give help and support
instead. (13-14 year old category, home educated 1-2 years) Many
also said that the visit would only be acceptable to them if it was not
compulsory. The children should
choose whether they get visited or not because they might not want to be visited,
parents can't make children do stuff. (7-8 year old category, home educated 1-2 years) Another thought provoking response highlighted the difference between having a visit to assess the adult's provision or the child's response: I think that they
should only visit me if I want them to. They did not visit me in school - the
OFSTED only looked at how the teachers did things not how I responded - so why
do it now that I am educated at home? (13-14 year old category, home educated under a year) One child wrote: I don't mind as long
as I can check up on them to make sure that all the children in their schools
are also getting a "suitable" education as I think some of them
aren't (11-12 year old category, home educated 7-8 years) Question: The Report
wants local authorities to have the right to question you on your own, without
your parent or "educator" present.
Do you think this is right? If so, why and if not, why not? This drew the largest response, with 772 children answering the question. This question also drew the widest range of answers and some of the most passionate. 30 children - around 3.9% - said
that they wouldn't mind being seen without their parent or educator
present. that's ok too because i am alright with talking to
anyone about what we do. maybe they will give me money to get my own computer. (15-16 year old category, home
educated 3-4 years) I think it is fine, if they want to question me about
my education- that's fine. (13-14 year old category, home
educated 3-4 years) A further 30 children said that
they did not personally have a problem with the idea but were very clear about
the circumstances in which it would be acceptable such as: It should be up to the child. Only if the child agrees. I needn't explain why it
isn't right to interrogate a child against their will. (17-18 year old category, home
educated 9-10 years) If it can be stopped at any time. only if I can leave the room when I want (9-10 year old category, home
educated less than a year)
Pre –agreed questions. I believe if the questions are set questions, that the
parent/"educator" has the right to look at before hand, and are only
intended for the purpose of assesing the child to make sure they are
cared/educated properly, then it should be allowed, provided it's a one off
assesment and not recurring. (15-16 year old category, home
educated 1-2 years) No personal questions allowed. I think that it would be useful for the inspector to
hear the views of the child in question, but that any personal questions should
be avoided (15-16 year old category, home
educated 13-14 years) Most of those who answered in
this category did not believe it was appropriate for younger children, with
some suggesting between 10 and 12 as a cut off point. The concept doesn't bother me but it could prove
inappropriate for younger children. (15-16 year old category, home
educated 7-8 years)
Only if they have serious welfare concerns (15-16 year old category, home
educated 9-10 years)
29 children (3.8%) were unsure
about the recommendation and gave no clear answer, with most of them echoing
the caveats mentioned by the previous category such as age, permission from the
child or adult to have them interviewed alone, or set-questions. Others acknowledged the variables
that would have to be factored in before a decision could be made. I don't really have a view on that. It would depend on
the person, their past experiences and the approach taken. (13-14 year old category, home
educated 3-4 years) I think it's fine for some people and not for others
so I don't know if I can answer that question. I know my self I would like my
Mum around but then again I know some people would be fine about it. It depends
on the child so know one can know the answer. I my self would say no. What I
don't understand about it all is why the Police can't do this to you but the
autorities can. If Home Ed people have to do this everybody should because it's
not fair. (11-12 year old category, home
educated 1-2 years) I'm not bothered if I was on my own or not - The
answers would probably be the same, - Only thing that I get cross about it that
they don't understand what I say and they twist my words around to mean
different things. I don't want to be questioned like I'm in some courtroom. -
That's probably what it would feel like, so - on second thoughts - No - I
probably wouldn't like it if they asked me questions when I was on my own -
They ask stupid questions anyway! (13-14 year old category, home
educated 3-4 years) Personally for myself this would not be a problem, but
alot of Home Educated children are younger than myself and could be
nervous/timid. My brother would not like it. It seems pretty unfair to
interogate a child when they've done nothing wrong, (that's how it would come
across) and again it's pretty biased towards State schools when their children
aren't interogated and again loads fail. Why don't they do this to all children
in all homes? Why just do it to Home educated children. (15-16 year old category, home
educated 3-4 years) Several children felt that
potential opportunity to allow children to speak without any allegation of
parental pressure would be negated by the potential for a local authority
officer to put pressure on the child. This is OK to a limit - but I'm only a child and I
believe that the LEA would try and trick me into saying something that I don't
mean. - I would want the questions ahead of time, so that I can have time to
think about them - a bit like in the Houses of Parliament (13-14 year old category, home
educated 1-2 years) One young person wrote: It's hard to say. A child may be pressured into
answering questions in a way to suit the local authority when the parents isn't
present to make sure any questions are being presented to the child unbiasedly.
Although then again a child could feel pressured by their parents if they want
to tell the local authority something that their parents don't want them to
know. (19-25 year old category,
formerly home educated) 683 children (88.5%) were completely
against the idea of being interviewed without their parent or educator
present. The responses ranged from angry, vehement, distressed, through
to eloquent and reasoned arguments: Wrong! Because it sounds wrong. (5-6 year
old category, home educated 5-6 years) But I will be alone! (7-8 year old category, home educated 7-8 years) unless there was a problem i can,t see why they would
need to do this and i would be worried that they may try and bully me into
returning to school and that would upset me secondary school was not nice
actually it was hell. (13-14 year old category, home
educated less than a year) This is preposterous, I was at school for two years
and when ofsted inspectors came, they never once spoke to a student alone. I do
not think it appropriate or just, as a young child can be confused by how the
Local Authority would ask questions, and lets face it, they would put words in
the childs mouth as they don't agree with home-education. (17-18 years old, formerly home
educated) There have been several big cases involving
interviewing children for signs of abuse, such as Cleveland, where social
services have shown themselves not up to the job resulting in many children
wrongly being taken away from their parents. No one can be sure that there are
no leading questions slipping into an interview like this. (13-14 year old category,
formerly home educated) Aboslutely 100% NOT right! (15-16 year old category, home
educated 9-10 years) One parent wrote down the
dialogue that had ensued over the question: "No." "I don't understand these
questions" [parent] I
explained that they were only suggestions not yet the law and maybe wouldn't
become so. I explained the question again.
I asked if maybe children should be able to tell someone if they were
unhappy with the choice their parents made for them. Child getting cheesed off now said "But you didn't decide I did. I think it's
good" [parent] by now he was confused - he just can't
envisage that we would make choices that don't take account of his needs. These questions are outside his experience. (5-6 year old category, home
educated 1-2 years)
i want to be able to put our side of the story, tell
the people reading this that's these are my words and not yours (My dads) (5-6 year old category, home
educated 5-6 years) I would tell Graham Badman that he is very ignorant
and doesn't really care about home educating families and that he is careless. (7-8 year old category, home
educated 1-2 years) I don't want to go to school and I don't think it's
right to be made to go to school just because they don't understand what you're
doing. (9-10 year old category, home
educated 9-10 years) i think it's worrying and is putting extra pressure on
me and my parents and is getting in the way of our home educating (11-12 year old category, home
educated 3-4 years) I don't think that there's much more to say apart from
I love doing Home Education and I wouldn't go back to school, given the choice.
People have to understand that school isn't right for everyone! And that most
of us are serious about education and want to do well. Me and my mum felt as
though we didn't have a choice but to take me out of school, and people need to
think about it from our point of veiw, too! (13-14 year old category, home
educated 1-2 years)
(13-14 year old category, home
educated 1-2 years) The Report seems based on the assumption that school
is the best place for every single child. Have the negative effects on children
and young people been considered? (17-18 year old category,
formerly home educated) The last word should go to one of
the young people: His report is infeasible, it would take far too much
manpower and funding for many of his recommendations to implement. If they did
manage to fund it, who would pay for it? The taxpayers, many of whom are home
educators who don't want any of these silly, unnecessary recommendations to
come into effect. (15-16
year old category, home educated 6-7 years) Annex A Questions1. How old are you? Category options were: · 5-6 · 7-8 · 9-10 · 11-12 · 13-14 · 15-16 · 17-18 · 19-25 2. How long approximately have you been home
educated? Category options were: · Less than a year · 1-2 years · 3-4 years · 5-6 years · 7-8 years · 9-10 years · 11-12 years · 13-14 years · Formerly home educated 3. Some people think that the decision to home
educate is made just by the parent and that this means children's rights are
not taken into account. Do you agree? 4. Do you choose what you learn, and how you learn, or do you feel that it is all decided for you by your parent(s)? 5. The Report has said that the local authority must be allowed to visit you to check that you are receiving a "suitable education". Do you think this is right? If so, why and if not, why not? 6. The Report wants local authorities to have
the right to question you on your own, without your parent or
"educator" present. Do you
think this is right? If so, why and if not, why not? 7. What else would you like to say about the Report and its recommendations? 8. Would you like your comments to be passed onto DCSF? Category options were: · Yes · No · Don’t mind |